Fay Tincher

by Joanna E. Rapf

One of comedienne Fay Tincher’s few extant titles, Rowdy Ann (1919), has been described recently by Andrew Grossman, as “one of the first American films, comic or otherwise, to legitimately address the social psychology of gender construction.” But Tincher is barely mentioned, if at all, in histories of the silent era. Kalton C. Lahue and Samuel Gill are among the few to acknowledge her significance, writing that her work with Al Christie between 1919–1920 “ranked among the best on the screen at the time” (372). They suggest, as have others, that she had “some of the elusive qualities of Mabel Normand,” and conclude that her disappearance from the screen in 1928 remains a mystery (368). More recently, where she does receive a few lines, scholars selectively represent her career, as when Karen Mahar remarks that Tincher, whom she too sees as the closest to Normand in beauty and ability, reached fame between 1923 and 1928 playing the wife in the Andy Gump series (Mahar 2006, 130). Tincher did play Min Gump, although not in her wackiest phase during her peak, but rather at a time when her stardom was on a decline. Yes, the “Gump” series was very popular, but Tincher’s heyday was between 1914 and 1920 when, for one and a half years, between 1917 and 1919, she was reported as having had her own company, Fay Tincher Productions. Here, she invites comparison with other popular comediennes who gave their names to short-lived companies—Normand, Marie Dressler, Flora Finch, Gale Henry.

Fay Tincher (a/d/p). PC

Fay Tincher. Private Collection. 

Fay Tincher (a/d/p) unknown film, part of the Ethel series. PCJR

Fay Tincher, unknown film, part of the Ethel series. Private Collection.

Fay Tincher (a/d/p) & Edward Dillon, Faithful to the Finish (1915). PCJR

Fay Tincher and Edward Dillon, Faithful to the Finish (1915). Private Collection. 

Fay Tincher (a/d/p) & Edward Dillon Laundry Liz (disputed) (1916) Anita Loos (w). PCJR

Fay Tincher and Edward Dillon,Laundry Liz (1916) or perhaps Back to the Laundry (1916). Private Collection.

Fay Tincher (a/d/p) Laundry Liz (1916) (disputed) (1916) Anita Loos (w), PCJR

Fay Tincher, Laundry Liz (1916) or perhaps Back to the Laundry (1916). Private Collection.

Fay Tincher (a/d/p) Sunshine Dad (1916). PCJR

Fay Tincher, Sunshine Dad (1916). Private Collection. 

World Film Corporation, the distributor for Fay Tincher Productions, publicized the new venture with this release: “Miss Tincher writes her own stories (in self defense, as she puts it), chooses her own casts, and directs her own pictures” (qtd. in Massa 22). A photo caption under a scene from one of her films, Some Job (1918), reiterates this image: “Fay Tincher is a merciless autocrat when she directs men’s activities.” But today, since most of her films from this period are lost, we know little of those years when Tincher was at her most powerful as a film producer as well as a comedy star. In front of the camera Fay Tincher had three distinct personae: 1) Ethel, the stenographer, the role that made her a star; 2) a cowgirl; and 3) the housewife, Min Gump. Before taking on the role of Min, her characters were consistently strong, independent women, anticipating something of the uniqueness, confidence, and even dominance of men, with the chutzpah later embodied by Mae West. Like West, Tincher was short, only five feet two, but both commanded the screen despite their size. Unlike West, however, Tincher never pretended to be a sex symbol; she rarely put herself in a romantic situation and rejected conventional beauty. The Milwaukee Journal in 1914 observed that Tincher “persists and revels in making herself look awkward, no makeup… nor does she care how it makes her look provided it accomplishes her purpose—to make people laugh and be happy” (n.p.). She attracted attention through her bizarre way of dressing on- as well as off-screen. Since she did not have the lead as Ethel in the Bill the Office Boy films, she got herself noticed with the distinctive black and white striped costumes that became her trademark. As Ethel, Tincher also chewed gum incessantly and styled her hair with a huge spit curl in the middle of her forehead or over one cheek. A 1917 cover story in Motion Picture Magazine noted: “the stenographer wasn’t meant to be the star of the cast, but the distinctive way in which she carried her role made her one overnight” (Wade 65).

As a sometimes cross-dresser, Tincher reveled in roles that asked her to perform athletically and to face down danger. On June 20, 1915, the Fargo Daily published a photograph of the comic dressed as a boy, with a hat and cane, its caption quoting Tincher: “It’s more fun being a boy in a movie comedy than chewing a whole package of gum” (n.p.). For the newly formed Triangle-Fine Arts Company production of Don Quixote (1916), Julian Johnson in the March issue of Photoplay praised Tincher, calling her performance “little short of wonderful,” with the reservation that she made Dulcinea “into a female Charley [sic] Chaplin” when she should have resembled Lady Godiva” (110). In the same periodical in June, John Lloyd commented that her bizarre and eccentric performance “established Fay Tincher as one of the great film actresses” (56). She then went on to star in a series of shorts for the Triangle Company, many of which were written by Anita Loos.

Born in 1884 in Topeka, Kansas to an affluent family, Fay Tincher began appearing in amateur theatre at an early age. From the beginning, she was remarkably savvy about publicity and gained a good deal of notoriety in 1908 when she seemed to be unsure about whether or not she had, on a dare, married a wealthy Connecticut bachelor named Ned Buckley. Stories about this escapade ran in a number of papers, including The World, where in 1908 Tincher is quoted as saying, “Not that Ned would not make a desirable husband for any girl who wished to marry… But I do not want to marry him nor any man” (n.p.). As far as we know, however, this marriage was a publicity hoax. Tincher never did marry.

Fay Tincher seems to have struck out on her own when she formed Fay Tincher Productions in 1917, but exactly how many comedies she made is uncertain, and none of these are extant. We still do not know what happened to her company and why she signed with Al Christie productions in 1918. Christie was fond of using cross-dressing as a comic device, and he utilized the unconventional Tincher as a wild, Western cowgirl, not only in Rowdy Ann (1919), but also Go West Young Woman (1919), Wild and Western (1919), and Dangerous Nan McGrew (1919). But in 1920 she stopped making Western comedies, and appeared in only a few more films for Christie. There is a two-year gap before she is seen on-screen again as Min Gump, a conventional woman’s role that tamed her unruly uniqueness. When the series ended in 1928, she seems to have disappeared.

Why? One reason may have had to do with her rumored sexual preference for women, as Loos intimates (Loos 1977, 31). In addition, Tincher may have been on Will Hayes’s rumored blacklist created in the wake of the Fatty Arbuckle and William Desmond Taylor scandals in 1921 and 1922. Another reason may simply be that comedy changed in the 1920s. Female slapstick clowns of the teens, such as Alice Howell, Louise Fazenda, and Polly Moran took on supporting roles as comedy blended with drama in an effort to appeal to more sophisticated audiences. Tincher died in 1983 in Brooklyn, New York and is buried in an unmarked grave in Silver Mount Cemetery on Staten Island according to Billy Doyle’s Necrology (1995, 80). What happened to her during the fifty-five years that elapsed between her last motion picture in 1928 and her death deserves to be unearthed along with her lost films. In 1916 she is quoted as having said that “Comedy on screen will have to be taken seriously and raised to a much higher level than it has been so far, if it is to be permanent” (Denny 78).


“Am I Mrs. or Miss? Is the Lady's Query.” The World (7 Aug.1908): n. p. clippings file, New York Public Library, Billy Rose Theatre Division.

Denny, Margaret. “How Fay Tincher Regards Her Profession.” Motion Picture Magazine  (Aug. 1916): 77-80.

Grossman, Andrew, “Fay Tincher.” Senses of Cinema (December 2002): n.p.  http://sensesofcinema.com/2002/23/symposium3/#tincher  

Johnson, Julian. “The Shadow Stage.” Photoplay (March 1916): 101-110.

Lahue, Kalton C. and Samuel Gill. “Fay Tincher.” In Clown Princes and Court Jesters. London: Thomas Yoseloff, Ltd, 1970. 386-376.

Lloyd, John. “Let Fay Try It!” Photoplay (June 1916): 53-56.

Loos, Anita. Cast of Thousands. New York: Grosset & Dunlap, 1977.

Mahar, Karen Ward. Women Filmmakers in Early Hollywood. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2006.

Massa, Steve. “Some Job: The Film Career of Fay Tincher.” Slapstick #10 (Summer 2004): 18-30.

“Playing Boy’ For Films Heaps of Fun.” The Fargo Daily (20 June 1915): n.p. clippings file. New York Public Library, Billy Rose Theatre Division.

“Plays Cleo in ‘The Battle of the Sexes’” The New Orleans States (11 Aug. 1914): n.p. clippings file,  New York Public Library, Billy Rose Theatre Division.

“Some Job.” (20 July 1918): n.p. clippings file, New York Public Library, Billy Rose Theatre Division.

Wade, Peter. “The Girl on the Cover.” Motion Picture Magazine (April 1917): 65-67.

“Where There's A Will There's A Way And She Has Both To Make You Laugh.” Milwaukee Journal (31 Oct. 1914): n.p. clippings file. New York Public Library, Billy Rose Theatre Division.

Archival Paper Collections: 

Fay Tincher clippings file. Robinson Locke Collection. New York Public Library, Billy Rose Theatre Division.

Various Fay Tincher clippings. Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Margaret Herrick Library.


A. Archival Filmography: Extant Film Titles:

1. Fay Tincher as Actress

The Battle of the Sexes. Dir.: D.W. Griffith (Reliance-Majestic US 1914) cas.: Lillian Gish, Owen Moore, Mary Alden, Fay Tincher, Robert Harron, Donald Crisp, si, b&w, 35mm. Archive: George Eastman Museum.

Leave It to Smiley. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Komic Comedy US 1914) cas.: Fay Tincher, Tod Browning, Joseph Belmont, Tammany Young, Max Davidson, si, b&w, 35mm, 1 reel. Archive: Library of Congress.

Bill Joins the W.W.W.’s. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Reliance-Majestic US 1914) cas.: Tammany Young, Fay Tincher, Tod Browning, Max Davidson, Mae Gaston, Edward Dillon, si, b&w, 35mm, 1 reel. Archive: Library of Congress, Lobster Films, Academy Film Archive.

Bill Manages a Fighter. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Reliance-Majestic US 1914) cas.: Tammany Young, Fay Tincher, Tod Browning, Edward Dillon, Hobo Dougherty, Max Davidson, si, b&w, 1 reel. Archive: BFI National Archive.

Bill Spoils a Vacation. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Reliance-Majestic US 1914) cas.: Tammany Young, Fay Tincher, Tod Browning, si, b&w, 35mm, 1 reel. Archive: Library of Congress.

Casey’s Vendetta. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Reliance-Majestic US 1914) cas.: Fay Tincher, Edward Dillon, Tod Browning, Max Davidson, Sylvia Ashton, si, b&w, 1 reel, 753ft. Archive: Library and Archives Canada, Library of Congress.

The Housebreakers. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Reliance-Majestic US 1914) cas.: Fay Tincher, Tod Browning, Edward Dillon, Max Davidson, Sylvia Ashton, si. b&w, 35mm, 1 reel. Archive: Library and Archives Canada, Library of Congress.

Music Hath Charms. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Reliance-Majestic US 1915) cas.: Fay Tincher, Augustus Carney, Tod Browning, Max Davidson, Eleanor Washington, si, b&w, 35mm, 2 reels. Archive: Library of Congress.

Sunshine Dad. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Triangle Film Corp. US 1916) cas.: Fay Tincher, DeWolf Hopper, Chester Withey, Max Davidson, Jewel Carmen, si, b&w, 16mm, 5 reels. Archive: Library of Congress.

The Two O’Clock Train. Dir.: Edward Dillon (Triangle Komedy US 1916) cas.: Fay Tincher, Jack Cosgrove, Edward Dillon, Max Davidson, Frank Bennett, si, b&w, 35mm, 1 reel of 2; 666 ft. Archive: Library of Congress.

Rowdy Ann. Dir.: Al Christie (Christie Special Comedy US 1919) cas.: Fay Tincher, Eddie Barry, Harry Depp, Katherine Lewis, Margaret Gibson, Patricia Palmer, si, b&w, 35mm & 16mm. 2 reels. Archive: Cineteca del Friuli, Museum of Modern Art, Library of Congress, Academy Film Archive.

Andy’s Hat in the Ring/Andy Throws His Hat in the Ring. Dir.: Norman Taurog (Universal US 1924) cas.: Joe Murphy, Fay Tincher, Jackie Morgan, si, b&w, 2 reels. Archive: Museum of Modern Art.

Andy’s Stump Speech. Dir.: Norman Taurog (Universal US 1924) cas.: Joe Murphy, Fay Tincher, Jackie Morgan, si, b&w, 2 reels. Archive: Museum of Modern Art.

Andy’s Lion Tale. Dir.: Francis Corby (Universal US 1925) cas.: Joe Murphy, Fay Tincher, Jackie Morgan, si, b&w, 2 reels. Archive: Library of Congress, Museum of Modern Art.

Andy Takes a Flyer. Dir.: Raymond Gray (Universal US 1925) cas.: Slim Summerville, Fay Tincher, Jackie Morgan, si, b&w, 2 reels. Archive: Lobster Films.

B. Filmography: Non-Extant Film Titles:

1. Fay Tincher as Producer and Actress (Fay Tincher Productions)

Main 1-2-3, 1918; Oh, Susie, Behave, 1918, Some Job, 1918.

2. Fay Tincher as Actress

A Puritan Episode, 1913; Private Box 23, 1913; Adventures in Diplomacy, 1914;  After Her Dough, 1914; Bill and Ethel At The Ball, 1914; Bill Goes Into Business For Himself, 1914; Bill Organizes A Union, 1914; Bill Saves the Day, 1914; Bill’s Job, 1914; Bill Takes A Lady To Lunch—Never Again!, 1914; A Corner in Hats, 1914; The Deceiver, 1914; Dizzy Joe’s Career, 1914; The Escape, 1914; Ethel Has A Steady, 1914;  Ethel’s Roof Party, 1914; Ethel’s Teacher, 1914; An Exciting Courtship, 1914;  The Fatal Dress Suit, 1914; Foiled Again, 1914;  Home, Sweet Home, 1914; How Bill Squared It With His Boss, 1914; Hubby to the Rescue, 1914; The Last Drop of Whiskey, 1914; The Man in the Couch, 1914; The Mascot, 1914; The Million Dollar Bride, 1914; Mr. Hadley’s Uncle, 1914;  Nearly A Burglar’s Bride, 1914; Nell’s Eugenic Wedding, 1914; Out Again – In Again, 1914;  A Physical Culture Romance, 1914; The Quick Sands, 1914; A Race for the Bride, 1914; The Record Breaker, 1914; The Right Dope, 1914; The Scene of the Crime, 1914; Too Proud to Beg, 1914; Victims of Speed, 1914; The White Slave Catchers, 1914; Wrong All Around, 1914; Beautiful Love, 1915; Beppo the Barber, 1915; Bill Gives A Smoker, 1915; Bill Turns Valet, 1915; Brave and Bold, 1915; By Fair Means or Fowl, 1915; Caught By A Handle, 1915; A Chase By Moonlight, 1915; A Costly Exchange, 1915; Cupid and the Pest, 1915; The Deacon’s Whiskers, 1915; Ethel’s Deadly Alarm Clock, 1915; Ethel’s Disguise, 1915; Ethel’s Doggone Luck, 1915; Ethel Gets Consent, 1915; Ethel Gets the Evidence/Ethel’s First Case, 1915; Ethel’s New Dress, 1915; Ethel’s Romance, 1915; Faithful to the Finish, 1915; The Fatal Finger Prints, 1915;  Father Love, 1915;Home Again, 1915; A Flurry in Art, 1915;  A Flyer in Spring Water, 1915; Gasoline Gus, 1915; Over and Back, 1915;  Shocking Stockings, 1915; Love and Business, 1915; The Love Pirate, 1915; Mixed Values, 1915; Mr. Wallack’s Wallet, 1915; Safety First, 1915; Unwinding It, 1915; Where Breezes Blow, 1915; Bedella’s Bluff, 1916; A Calico Vampire, 1916; Don Quixote, 1916; The French Milliner, 1916; The Lady Drummer, 1916; Laundry Liz, 1916; Love’s Getaway, 1916; Mr. Goode, The Samaritan, 1916; Skirts, 1916; Dangerous Nan McGrew, 1919; The Fire Flingers, 1919; Go West Young Woman, 1919; Mary Moves In, 1919; Sally’s Blighted Career, 1919; Wild and Western, 1919; Dining Room, Kitchen and Sink, 1920;  A Seaside Siren, 1920; Striking Models, 1920; Aggravatin’ Mama, 1923; Oh! What A Day!, 1923; Uncle Bim’s Gift, 1923; Watch Papa, 1923; Andy’s Temptation, 1924; A Day of Rest, 1924; Oh! Min!, 1924; Swing Bad The Sailor, 1924; Excitement, 1924; That Kid From Madrid, 1924; A Tough Tenderfoot, 1924; What’s the Use?, 1924; Westbound, 1924; Andy in Hollywood, 1925; Chester’s Donkey Party, 1925; Dynamited, 1925; The Smash Up, 1925; The Big Surprise, 1926; California Here We Come, 1926; A Close Call, 1926; Dumb Luck, 1926; I Told You So, 1926; Lots of Grief, 1926; Min’s Away, 1926;  Min’s Home on the Cliff, 1926; Min Walks in Her Sleep, 1926; Never Again, 1926; Shady Rest, 1926; Tow Service, 1926; Andy Nose His Onions, 1927; And How!, 1927; A Battle Scared Hero, 1927; Broke Again, 1927; Circus Daze, 1927; I’m the Sheriff, 1927; The Mild West, 1927; Ocean Bruises, 1927; Rooms for Rent, 1927; Too Much Sleep, 1927; A Total Loss, 1927; Up Against It, 1927; When Greek Meets Greek, 1927; Youth and Beauty, 1927; Any Old Count, 1928; A Case of Scotch, 1928; The Cloud Buster, 1928; Out in the Rain, 1928.

C. DVD Sources:

Slapstick Encyclopedia. DVD (Image Entertainment US 2002)

Credit Report

As very little has been written about Tincher, it is likely that this filmography is incomplete. Although it can’t be confirmed, Tincher probably appeared in more of the dramatic Reliance-Majestic one-reelers before she became popular in the Komic Comedies in 1914. It is also likely that Tincher wrote and/or directed some of the titles produced by her production company. Finally, Library of Congress has an untitled 35mm acetate dupe negative listed as “Unidentified United Pictures Film, 1920,” with a cast consisting of Fay Tincher, Edward Dillon, and Frank Bennett. It is probably a Triangle or Komic short. Casey’s Vendetta and The Battle of the Sexes both exist as fragments. Both prints of The Housebreakers at Library and Archives Canada and the Library of Congress are incomplete.


Rapf, Joanna E. "Fay Tincher." In Jane Gaines, Radha Vatsal, and Monica Dall’Asta, eds. Women Film Pioneers Project. New York, NY: Columbia University Libraries, 2013.  <https://doi.org/10.7916/d8-fn9h-vx04>

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